Joel is the author of the new book Flights Across America: A Brewery Lover’s Journey. As the host of the popular “Brewery Travels” podcast, he hit the road (and the sky) to visit nearly 1400 breweries across all 50 states, including 26 in PA. He began his travels
in 2017 and his book releases on December 17th . I caught up with him by phone to share a beer and a quick chat.

Flights Across America – Cover

Three Questions

Flights Across America – blurbs

1) What was the biggest takeaway from all the breweries you visited?

Not surprisingly, that they’re all different. Breweries are sort of like fingerprints—they’re unique. But in their uniqueness, they all have a story to tell. Sometimes it’s an owner’s story about how he or she got into the business. Other times, it’s the story about a particular beer they make and why people like it. And yet another story might be about how the location for the brewery was chosen. All in all, every brewery has a story to share with the community.

2) What would people be most surprised to know about your beer travels?

Oh, how much work I put into the project. From being a hobby to visit breweries in a state where I was with my family to becoming a true obsession of visiting them in every state. We would re-route trips in order to visit a brewery. It was pretty meticulous planning at times; it wasn’t willy-nilly. While it wasn’t a job, it was still a lot of work.

3) If someone wanted to plan a “beercation” to visit a bunch of breweries, what are few things they should know before they go?

I have a few sections in my book about beer tourism and how to plan your visits. The two big tips would be to make sure to double check a brewery’s hours. Sometimes they’re inconsistent and you don’t want to make a big plan and show up on say a Thursday when a brewery is closed, thinking its hours are like the weekend’s. Or, if it is closed for maintenance or some other reason. And two, might sound obvious, but find out what type of beer the place serves—if you don’t like a certain type of beer—like sours or IPA—but that’s the type of beer a brewery specializes in, you may want to skip it.

You can see Paul’s other ‘Three Questions and a Pint’ here:

• Three Questions and a Pint: with Josh Dourte
• Three Questions and a Pint: with Noah Reighard

Flights Across America – Promotional

The Pint

Joel was spending some time back at home with his kids while we were talking and wasn’t having a beer. I was enjoying a Sierra Nevada Narwhal as we talked. (Sierra Nevada Narwhal.)

You can follow Joel Gaier on his Instagram at — @brewery_travels.

You can purchase the book from Amazon here: Flights Across America: A Brewery Lover’s Journey

You can read more about it on GoodReads here: Flights Across America: A Brewery Lover’s Journey (GoodReads).

Paul R. Kan

Paul R. Kan is the author of Hawai’i Beer:  A History of Brewing in Paradise which was a North American Guild of Beer Writers’ award winner and a #1 new release on Amazon’s Books on Beer.  He has written for Good Beer Hunting and is Editor-at-Large at The Beer Thrillers.  Along with beer reviews, book reviews and interviews, he also writes about the interesting ways beer intersects with people and society.  His current book project is Red, White and Brew:  The Beers and Battles that Shaped America. He lives in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

ʻOi kau ka lā, e hana i ola honua (While the sun yet shines, do all you can).

Paul R. Kan Articles

The following are articles that Paul R. Kan has written here for The Beer Thrillers:

• Book Review: Beer and Society: How We Make Beer and Beer Makes Us (Eli Revelle Yano Wilson and Asa B. Stone)
• Book Review: A Woman’s Place is in the Brewhouse – A Forgotten History of Alewives, Brewsters, Witches, and CEOs (Tara Nurin)
• From Central PA to the Pacific: A Beer Lover’s Hawaiian Journey An Interview with Alexander B. Gates
• Book Review: The Greatest Beer Run Ever (John Chick Donohue and J.T. Molloy)
• Twofer Brewfer Brewery Reviews: Gearhouse Brewing Co. and Liquid Art Brewing
• Tapping into Heritage and Hope on Maui
• Book Review: Brewed in Japan (Jeffrey Alexander)
• Three Questions and a Pint: with Josh Dourte
• Three Questions and a Pint: with Noah Reighard
• Visiting Four Breweries in Phoenix: Getting to Visit Tombstone Brewing Company, Wren House Brewing, PHX Beer Co, and OHSO Brewery and Distillery
• Book Review: Revenge of She-Punks (Vivien Goldman)
• Beer Heists: Stealing and Dealing Your Beer
• Three Questions and a Pint: with Joel Gaier

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• MAPS OF BREWERIES

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A pint of Guinness served at a pub.

Recent research sparked debate last week when it suggested that reducing the standard beer size in pubs from a pint to two-thirds could benefit public health. But is the pint really the problem?

Smaller Serves, Smaller Consumption?

Headlines like “Woke scientists want to shrink your PINT!” blew up after a study replaced pint glasses with two-thirds servings in several English pubs. The result? Beer sales dropped by nearly 10%. Researchers concluded that if this were implemented nationwide, it could reduce alcohol consumption and help combat obesity.

However, not everyone is on board. The Campaign for Real Ale (Camra) quickly pushed back. Camra’s chair, Ash Corbett-Collins, noted that less than 1% of the venues approached for the study agreed to trial smaller measures, and none of the 12 pubs that participated chose to keep the changes. “The verdict from publicans is clear,” Corbett-Collins stated.

A Study That Few Wanted

The study, led by Dr. Eleni Mantzari of the University of Cambridge, faced challenges from the start. Of the more than 1,700 pubs asked to take part, only 13 agreed. Even Dr. Mantzari admitted, “I was surprised we were able to run the study at all.” She noted the deep cultural connection to the pint, adding, “People don’t want to mess with the pint!”

This resistance is echoed by beer author Pete Brown, who was furious when he heard about the study. “Pubs are already struggling. As if we don’t have enough problems, now they want to take away our pints!” he said.

The Pint’s Place in British Culture

The British pint is more than just a measure of beer; it’s a cultural icon. As Sophie Atherton, Britain’s first female beer sommelier, explains, “The pint is a quintessentially British thing, bound with the institution of the pub.” For many, the pint is a symbol of British life, not just a drink size.

Brown adds that asking someone for a pint is about more than consuming alcohol—it’s a social connection. “It’s not just ‘Let’s drink’; it’s ‘Let’s spend time together,’” he explains.

Is the Pint Too Big?

Despite its cultural importance, some argue that the pint is one of the largest beer measures worldwide. In hotter countries like Australia and Spain, smaller servings are the norm. Even in colder nations, beer servings tend to be smaller. Germany’s famous litre steins are one of the few exceptions to Britain’s 568ml pint.

For beer lovers like Brown and Atherton, the pint’s size perfectly matches the strength of traditional British beers, which typically range from 3.5% to 4.5% ABV. “A pint allows you to drink slowly and enjoy your time at the pub,” says Brown. Stronger beers, particularly those from craft breweries, are a different story—smaller sizes like two-thirds or one-third glasses are becoming more common for these higher ABV brews.

Does Serving Size Affect Drinking Habits?

Mantzari’s study aimed to find out if reducing beer serve sizes could reduce overall alcohol consumption, drawing parallels with portion sizes in food. However, while smaller portions may reduce food consumption, the reaction to smaller beer sizes was mixed. Some pub patrons complained, especially older men in venues outside London, but the complaints eventually subsided.

Beer Consumption: The UK in Context

Interestingly, despite the large pint size, the UK ranks only 28th in global beer consumption, with an average of 66.8 litres per capita annually. By comparison, the Czech Republic tops the list at 140.1 litres. In Spain, where the much smaller caña (200ml) is popular, per capita consumption still exceeds the UK at 81.2 litres.

The Bigger Picture: Alcohol and Public Health

While the debate over the pint continues, some see it as part of a broader conversation about alcohol-related harm. Brown, whose younger brother passed away due to alcoholism, acknowledges the dangers of excessive drinking but believes the pint itself is not the issue. Atherton agrees, arguing that cheap supermarket alcohol, not the pint, is more likely to lead to unhealthy drinking habits.

Will the Pint Survive?

Despite the discussions around reducing serve sizes, most experts agree that the pint is here to stay. As Mantzari points out, there is no government push to enforce smaller beer sizes, and the pint remains a beloved staple of British pub culture.

Even with the rise of craft beers and stronger brews, the pint’s symbolic and practical value endures. “I always come back to the pint,” says Brown, who sees it as part of the British way of life.

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We are working on a massive project here at The Beer Thrillers. We are creating a map of all of the breweries across the United States. State by state we are adding maps of all of the different states with every brewery in each state. (We will eventually get to the US Territories, as well as the Canadian Provinces, and possibly more countries; as well as doing some fun maps like a map of all the breweries we’ve been to, and other fun maps.) You can find the brewery maps here:

• MAPS OF BREWERIES

We are also working on a project of creating printable and downloadable PDFs and resources to be able to check and keep track of all of the breweries you’ve been to. So stay tuned for that project once we are finished with the Brewery Maps of the US States.

You can check out our different directories here: Beer Reviews, Hike Reviews, Book Reviews, Brewery News, Brewery Openings, Brewer Interviews, and Travelogues.

Please be sure to follow us on our social media accounts – Facebook, Facebook Group, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and Influence. As well as our brand new Tumblr page. Please be sure to also follow, like, subscribe to the blog here itself to keep updated. We love to hear from you guys, so be sure to leave a comment and let us know what you think!

You can now find us on our Discord Server here: The Beer Thrillers (Discord Server). We’ve also joined LinkTree to keep track of all of our social media pages, as well as hot new articles we’ve written.

The Beer Thrillers on LinkTree can be found here: The Beer Thrillers LinkTree.

We have partnered with an affiliateship with Beer Drop.com. You can check out that partnership and receive great discounts, coupons, and more here: Beer Drop. Going here and logging in and ordering will help you receive your discounts and coupons as well as help support our page. Thank you for helping to support The Beer Thrillers and to help us maintain the site and blog and to keep it running.

The Beer Thrillers are a blog that prides itself on writing beer reviews, brewery reviews, travelogues, news (especially local to the Central PA brewery scene), as well as covering other topics of our interests – such as hiking, literature and books, board games, and video games which we sometimes stream with our friends over at Knights of Nostalgia. We are currently listed as #5 on FeedSpot’s “Top 100 Beer Blogs” and #9 on FeedSpot’s “Top 40 Pennsylvania Blogs”. (As of August 2024.) Thank you for reading our site today, please subscribe, follow, and bookmark. Please reach out to us if you are interested in working together. If you would like to donate to the blog you can here: Donate to The Beer Thrillers. Thank you!

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If you would like to reach out to us for product reviews, beer reviews, press release writing, and other media – please contact us at thebeerthrillers@gmail.com. Thank you.

(Thank you for reading. The opinions, thoughts, and expressions of each article posted on The Beer Thrillers represents the author of the content and only themselves. It does not express the opinions, beliefs, or ideas held by The Beer Thrillers or any company in which the author themselves work for. Each piece of written content is written by the creator(s) listed in the authorial section on each article unless otherwise noted. Their opinions, comments, and words on screen do not represent any company in which they work for and / or are affiliated with or any non – profits that they contribute to. Thank you.)

Yes, you heard that right. The Beer Thrillers are starting up their own YouTube Channel. What a crazy world we live in right? What’s next – podcasts? Oh…. wait! But, in the meantime, be sure to check out our YouTube Channel. Some of you might have noticed the YouTube icon added to the ‘social icons’ at the top of each page starting yesterday morning. This was meant to go up yesterday morning before work when I did the work to make the channel but I unfortunately ran out of time, so it’s going up now.

You can click on any of the links in the above paragraph to get to the channel or directly here: The Beer Thrillers YouTube Channel.

There is currently no videos up yet, but we (myself and D. Scott) are filming our first video today, so hopefully editing and everything, I will be posting it Friday. We are also doing our latest podcast – So a Mexican and A Scott Walk Into a Bar… – this edition on The Umbrella Academy; tonight, so be sure to look for that in the future as well.

Some series ideas I have for our YouTube channel are:

• Beer Tastings / Beer Reviews
• Philosophy and Pints (or Pints and Philosophy / Philosophies)
• Let’s Drink and Talk Nerdy
• Beers and Bad Movies
• Books and Brews or Brews and Books
• Fan Mail
• Home Brewing

As you can see, several of the series will be combining my different interests – books, philosophy, movies, nerd culture, etc. There will also be regular series of beer tastings and reviews, and potentially videos of home brewing, once I fully get back into that. Fan Mail will be a mixed bag of things, beers sent for us to review from either fans, breweries, or home brewers; us reading e-mails, texts, etc. And who knows what else.

So please be sure to subscribe to our channel and click the ALERT bell so you get all of our notifications on our videos.

Also, be sure to check out our new Facebook group, you can find our group here: The Beer Thrillers (Group).

Thank you all, and hope you will enjoy the video channel as much as you do about the blog. Don’t worry, I will still continue to do plenty of writing. (And most of the beer review, tastings, will also appear as written blogs too.) Just expanding our horizons and activities.

Cheers Everyone!

-B. Kline

For more reading:

• Check Out our New Interview Series
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• Changes to The Beer Thrillers